Chelsea Transfer Rumours

14 Mar 2024 00:56:37
Any interest on Musiala?

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}

14 Mar 2024 11:12:31
Thabks Ed. Ref for anyone else.
Ed002's Note - Jamal Musiala (AM/ LW) Bayern Munich have no interest in selling the player who spent 8 years at Chelsea although Chelsea will raise the possibility of offering two players plus cash to take JM back.

{Ed002's Note - You can add to that Manchester City consider him an option to replace KdB.}

14 Mar 2024 21:24:51
Musiala is definitely beyond our reach right now, sadly so. No way, even if Bayern would somehow agree to sell him, would Musiala join a club outside of Champions League.

I'd love for him to return to Stamford Bridge, it's a damn shame he left at all (though hard to argue it didn't work out superbly well for the player), and he's a lovely player to watch. He'd be the next artist back at the Bridge, after Hazard. But we're simply not at the level right now where we can properly compete for players of Musiala's level.

14 Mar 2024 21:51:17
It was reported that we get 20% of any on sale.

He looks a good player but it would appear City are favourites to sign him.

11 Mar 2024 18:27:34
So PSR is being scrapped.

11 Mar 2024 21:04:28
what is that likely to mean teams can spend what they want.

11 Mar 2024 22:30:09
It’s not being scrapped ? it’s changing slightly to match UEFA’s FSR, pretty much the same thing really. Clubs only being allowed to spend 85% of turnover on wages and transfers. Think there’s still things to figure out but don’t think it’ll change tooo much.

11 Mar 2024 22:59:21
Fuser, it is being scrapped mate.

12 Mar 2024 22:51:49
I’m sorry but very few fan’s understand FFP and my guess would be very few will understand any new proposals.

Why do we bother with worrying about it? If our club has in some way in the past we f? cked up then we deserve to be punished and if it happens for a future offence, so be it.

13 Mar 2024 12:39:24
Tom fans are allowed to care about the finances if they want too. I'm more supirsed when people don't care. It's one of the most important things in the sport. Do you expect an American to not care about the salary cap in the nba or nfl?

Again, 'so be it' in response to cheating is a bit too 'turn the other way' ish to me. I'm obviously not saying we're cheating, i think we skirt the rulez but that's okay
but if we were cheating I'd be a bit dissapointed.

13 Mar 2024 15:35:41
Standard, let me know when you understand FFP or PSR. I’m honest enough to say I don’t understand either of them.

I repeat if we are ever punished for breaking any rules I’m not going to bleat about. I will just assume that we deserve it.

Unlike you I have seen zero evidence that suggests we
“Skirt the rules. ” As far as I’m concerned, a team either conforms to the so called rules or breaks them.

13 Mar 2024 15:49:11
I should have also added that even if I did understand FFP and PSR I wouldn’t have a clue about the CFC”s financial position and how to apply it to FFP or PSR.

14 Mar 2024 04:54:01
I understand the amortisation pretty simply. Why are you so stand-offish and defensive?

An example of skirting the rules would be amortisation over an 8 year period rather than the standard 5, it was considered a loophole and it was subsequently stopped. If the rule isn't in place, absolutely make the most of it I say but I'd say that's an example of skirting, and not in a bad way.

14 Mar 2024 06:08:50
So like me you don’t understand FFP or PSR.

Also, working within the rules isn’t “skirting the rules. ”.

14 Mar 2024 06:41:49
Standard

How is it skirting the rule when there was no rule in place that we could not do deals over an 8 year period.

The rule has since been amended so that we can't do that going forward as you mentioned.

14 Mar 2024 07:06:11
Bill, I’m probably wrong but I think the “term” of a contract can still run for any agreeable duration.

14 Mar 2024 07:21:56
Bill I used the worst skirting, not breaking. There was nothing wrong with it as there was no rule in place as explained. But it was a method used to get around ffp absolutely, and although it is risky, I think it smart.

Tom as I typed, I understand it, it really isn't that hard to understand. Did you misread or something?

14 Mar 2024 07:42:57
Good, so you can now explain FFP and PSR to the posters on this site when we have a question on the subject.

So, under the current rules is there a maximum term/ duration for a players contract?

That’s my first question. I will have loads more over the coming seasons.

14 Mar 2024 11:18:13
I'm not sure what I've done to deserve this hostility Tom. I apologise if I've upset you somehow. I've actually stuck up for you a few times on here. dissapointing.

14 Mar 2024 12:32:00
I’m not sure what is “hostile” about asking a question on subject you “understand” but ho hum if you can’t answer the question no problems.

I find it very “disappointing” when I’m constantly miss-quoted by you but I guess that’s the way things are in life.

Just as aside im never that bothered when my opinions are different from other posters. I can’t imagine being a person who would gloat about victory or prefer defeat just to prove a point. God, what a s@it life that would be!

14 Mar 2024 22:40:10
I'm constantly miss quoted by you also so that's quite ironic. I've suggested many times for you to slow down and read my post again because multiple multiple times you've misquoted or misunderstood me.

15 Mar 2024 06:54:31
I assume “misunderstood” is a poker term for a crap hand.

15 Mar 2024 22:48:55
And you've confirmed my point. If you're just going to be negative to my every post why bother replying?

16 Mar 2024 03:10:49
Surely the point of posting anything is to get a reply, regardless if any reply is positive or negative!

16 Mar 2024 10:17:23
Tom, to be clear on the hostility Standard is referring to, your replies have come across extremely passive aggressive. Whether you meant it that way or not, that is how it reads. Furthermore, Standard also explained to you that he understood about the amortisation part of FFP, however you decided this clearly meant he claimed to understand FFP as a whole.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with two different views on a subject and having a debate, however your replies are becoming predictable every single time anyone talks about money. You simply say you don’t care about the finances as you don’t understand aspects of it. If this is the case then that’s absolutely fine - however it is far from constructive in consistently repeating that statement across multiple threads. You may not care, others certainly do. What others care about is completely up to them.

FFP is a big thing in the game at the moment, and for the foreseeable future, many people are going to be interested in this and to varying degrees of an understanding. You need to just get used to this instead of calling the pot pink.

16 Mar 2024 10:53:26
Cech, I have said many times I do not understand FFP or PSR and I have also given my opinion that both terms are generally weaponised. Every single time I’ve asked a poster to explain them both to me I get zero information.

I am well aware of the term “amortisation” and what it it means but as I don’t know if it’s application at a football club applies to all players (ladies, juniors included) all staff, general capex, salaries, bonuses and transfer fees.

I would humbly suggest that instead of expressing concern about FFP or PSR posters just ask a question or if they have a “factual” comment to make on the subject they express them. Any answers on the subject or factual comment would be helpful to me and I’m sure lots of other posters.

Apparently I have a habit as coming across as “passive aggressive. ” That would never be my intention and I obviously apologise for any unintentional offence caused to any poster.

16 Mar 2024 20:50:30
Your personal understanding of FFP, PSR or amortisation on the broader scale is slightly redundant in terms of what we are currently talking about though Tom?

Firstly just because your understanding of them isn’t at the required level, does not mean that the rest of us should not be able to comment or express concerns on the matter.

Secondly, if anyone here does understand FFP et al, they are under absolutely no obligation whatsoever to divulge that information to either you, myself or anyone else that has questions on the matter. That however does not mean that their contributions to the page should become mute. However if you don’t agree with it by all means share your side. But don’t constantly suggest that others shouldn’t talk about financial or other matters just because you have no interest in them.

I tend to find myself agreeing with a lot you say Tom, however the constant disregard of others concern or questions/ information regarding FFP et al is, simply put, infuriating at times. Anyway, i’m not going to carry on with this, I just hoped to explain to you how it looks from another perspective. I hope you’re well and sending you all the best.

16 Mar 2024 21:41:32
Cech, of course my understanding or lack of understanding FFP is redundant hence the reason I ask for clarification on how accurate the comments are on the subject. As far as I’m concerned that is one of the selling points of the site.

Surely posting we are are likely to be in breach of any rules needs some explanation.

You and others may well find my “constant disregard” of other people’s concerns about FFP or PSR “infuriating” but I can see no problem in asking the reasons for a such concerns. I find it equally infuriating when fans use the term without any supporting argument.

At some stage it may well happen that we are in breach of some rule or other and if that is the case we will deserve to be punished.

I fully understand fans having concerns about our club’s finances. That’s fine as far as I’m concerned but surely I’m allowed to ask the question why those concerns exist or express my ambivalence.

My health isn’t to bad at the moment thanks Cech. I go back into hospital mid April but hopefully just for an MOT. Stay safe mate.

06 Mar 2024 21:04:30
Ed002 is it true we are looking to bring Nico Williams in the summer? And could that mean sterling could go? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Nico Williams (LW/RW) Young Basque winger and brother to Inaki who has eased himself in to the first team over the last two seasons. Terse response from the Spanish U21 set up (along the lines of "he does not score many goals for an attacker") when told he was changing his allegiance to Ghana, like his brother - and that led to him changing back to Spain. There was plenty of interest in him so a contract extension and buy out clause were awarded to the player at the start of 2022 and again in December, pricing him out of a move to Barcelona at €50M plus. The Aston Villa coach wishes to be reunited and they will push for a deal in the summer but expect him to stay for a year or two more after signing a new contract. Looked at by numerous Premier League clubs including Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal as well as Barcelona and Real Madrid.

It is unrelated to RS.}

02 Mar 2024 13:29:51
Apparently we had a club official at the benfica / sporting game, sporting won, gyokeres with a brilliant no. 9 goal. They're saying we were there to watch Amorim gyorkeres diomande, any truth?

03 Mar 2024 00:40:03
No aparantly we were thrre to see the big eagle and sign there under 12s.

03 Mar 2024 09:01:41
Sorry Gianfranco

There is no way we are going to change and go for more experienced players at 12 level.

01 Mar 2024 13:00:19
Ed002 is it true we are interested in summerville.

{Ed002's Note - Crysencio Summerville (RW/LW) Leeds have no interest in selling but his agent is looking for a step up and speaking with clubs about him. Agent is close to Aston Villa and the City Football Group. Any move will likely depend on promotion being gained or not. Leeds will look for a new contract.}

22 Feb 2024 22:40:32
There are rumors of milan being interested in badiashile? Any truth and could he leave? Thankyou.

23 Feb 2024 07:05:52
I hope he goes. Too injury prone and too one footed. Would love to see us make a move for young Braithwaite from Everton. Him and Levi would make a good pairing.

24 Feb 2024 02:04:35
Definitely wouldn’t want braithwaite.

26 Feb 2024 02:57:49
Help of god it may be true another poor signing won't be missed.

26 Feb 2024 07:55:48
Do they want zpoch as well, we can do a buy one, get one free deal.

21 Feb 2024 21:51:46
Ed002 are we still interested in diogo costa and Rafael leao for the summer? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Rafael Leao (LW) Right footed left winger Leao signed a new contract last summer after serious interest was shown earlier in the year by Bayern Munich and Manchester City. Manchester City's interest remains. The interest of Chelsea went with the signing of Mykhaylo Mudryk and even though they are still looking for another similar player they have a far preferred option. I cannot see the player moving to Newcastle who enquired in the summer but PSG have sent scouts and he is be an option to replace Mbappe, but not top of the list. Barcelona have him on a lengthy list of wide options for the summer but need to sell. He could also be an option for Real Madrid as they clear the decks - but they would look to including a player in a deal which will cost at least €120M and it would mean Mbappe moving elsewhere - and that is not going to happen. I am not aware of Liverpool making any approach and they have four right footed players who can play on the left side of attack - and they need a left footed right sided forward. As such it would make little sense and costs a great deal of money.
Diogo Costa (G) Manchester United need to make a decision over their goalkeepers moving forward, and Costa is a player they have been looking at, but so have others. Spurs interest has gone, Chelsea have preferrred options and Roma need to replace the aging Rui Patrício. Porto will resist a sale unless and offer of €80M plus arrives.}

22 Feb 2024 13:38:28
Very interesting Ed, thanks. Would the preferred option be Olise, or would you prefer not to say at this time?

{Ed002's Note - Olise is not a LW nor GK.}

22 Feb 2024 13:53:23
Fair enough, thanks Ed.

22 Feb 2024 14:39:29
Ed002 would the preffered option be kvaratskhelia? Is Napoli who maybe wanted Mudryk in any potential deal? And I'm guessing the gk is maignan? Thanks a lot for detailed answers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not interested in providing such information to the Chelsea page as it just ends in abuse.}

22 Feb 2024 23:07:21
The one we should be after is Neto at Wolves. Im sure everyone is sniffing around him.

23 Feb 2024 04:58:20
Thank you for the info that you’ve shared ed. Means a lot to some (probably most) of us. It’s a much more dull environment when you’re not around!

16 Feb 2024 09:30:48
From arsenal page

"ed002 - Osimhen will almost certainly join Chelsea this summer"

Wow this is massive, always looked like could happen with Didier and mikel pushing for it and talking to him but was worried about us paying him wages he would want and reports that psg made him main target to replace mbappe. Exciting news, PSG not a worry ed002? Thank s a lot for this.

{Ed002's Note - PSG have him as an option - CHampions League football could influence the decision.}

16 Feb 2024 09:45:37
I like Tom watched him at the Afcon and to be honest, I like Tom was nit very impressed with his performances.

Not quite sure who i would go for if I'm honest, not many no9's out there who I feel could push us forward and that includes Toney.

16 Feb 2024 10:58:41
In the final he was great didn't score but he led the line brilliantly.

16 Feb 2024 11:33:56
He was amazing all of last season pulling defenders all over the place a scoring for fun.

He was generally average at AFCON and I seem to remember he picked up an injury earlier in the season.

He is still my No1 choice but it’s not a very long list.

16 Feb 2024 11:44:29
This would be a stunning signing given the struggles we have had over the last few years. Wow, fingers crossed we can close this one.

I think it is worth pointing out that he isn't the finished article and he is prone to missing the odd sitter. He isn't Kane, Haaland, Lewandowski-esque in his finishing. But these three in general are outliers, I am not sure whether you can bank on securing a player like that, or turn your nose up at players because they don't have the same quality. Lest we forget, Drogba was regularly castigated in his first two years at Chelsea for being very hit and miss in front of goal.

As Gola said, he dominates the final third physically and leads the line as well as anyone in football. He is monstrous in both boxes which is a massive issue we have had this season. Tournament goals don't tell the whole story all of the time - Giroud was vital to France when they won the WC without scoring once.

What a statement this would be.

16 Feb 2024 23:36:42
Just can't see it happening. If we start picking up some form and look like we're making progress on getting top 4 then sure, but otherwise with mbappe leaving I think he's psg bound. All too familiar to have them jump in at the end.

17 Feb 2024 09:32:44
I agree Standard PSG all the way gor him as they will be in the champions league and will win their domestic league every year.

Not too bothered though from the little I have seen from him.

17 Feb 2024 10:22:12
Harry Kane remains my first choice if he decides Germany is not for him, unlikely I know but he would be perfect.

17 Feb 2024 13:11:57
Kane would not player for us, he is a Tottenham legend.

17 Feb 2024 13:56:10
PSG likely spend their money on Leao.

17 Feb 2024 20:30:01
Standard thinks he knows better than Ed002 now haha
Priceless!

17 Feb 2024 22:10:44
Grow up hdkn. Things change very quickly in football.

18 Feb 2024 13:22:30
No ground bait involved.

18 Feb 2024 17:33:57
Can chelsea afford to have two African strikers in the same team? AFCON is always at the odd football period of the year, having two strikers away from the team at the same time of need doesn't sound wise to me. I'd go for VIKTOR of sporting!

15 Feb 2024 09:56:29
Apparently we're ok with Sterling leaving as his wages are very high, on top of that Ed has said there's interest in mudryk with a club willing to accept him as part payment ( I'll guess Leao ) Noni hasn't lit the league up ( nobody has really ) so are we looking to move on and add 2 or 3 wingers in summer, plus 1 or 2 strikers still, a CB?

15 Feb 2024 13:44:24
The next window would be truly remarkable if we didn’t sell and buy players. It’s what most clubs do.

15 Feb 2024 18:01:38
Bit sarky lol.

15 Feb 2024 18:15:42
gola, it’s not meant to be sarcastic but just a fact.

Perfectly reasonable to carry on with letting everyone know the latest rumour but it is on occasion worth mentioning that it all they are, just rumours.

Players we are supposedly interested in could well get pick up injuries as could players we might prefer to sell.

On to of that we have players performances to consider. My No1 choice for our next CF would be Osimhen but in my opinion he had a shocker at AFCON. That form may well continue for the remainder of the season.

The only thing I can see happening is, we will buy some players and sell some players. Who they are I haven’t got a clue.

15 Feb 2024 22:28:27
Very sarky Tom.

16 Feb 2024 07:38:34
G8, if that’s how you read it so be it.

We have about three and a half months until the next window. The transfer landscape will have many twists and turns before then and while rumours can be fun let’s not forget that’s all they are.

16 Feb 2024 08:13:00
I still believe an experienced CB and CF need to be the priorities.

Nothing else is needed unless sales weaken us and replacements will then be required.

16 Feb 2024 09:22:50
I totally agree with you Bill, we have some very good young players who now need time to settle, develop and gel together. I saw glimpses of that togetherness in the celebrations at Villa and Palace, it takes time but the group looked close. An experienced world class centre back and top level striker will, in my opinion, make a huge difference and get us challenging at the top table again.

16 Feb 2024 09:52:36
Ok, this continuous talk about us needing to sign a “top level” CB is understandable with Silva leaving at the end of the season.

That will then leave us with BB, Colwill, Disasi, Gilchrist, Chalaboa and Humphrey’s. My guess is two of them will be sold. At some stage with have to believe that these players will become “top players” otherwise what’s the point in signing or developing them.

16 Feb 2024 11:02:07
And fofana tomb and thanks for the info by the way I never knew any of that stuff and I didn't even ask for it what a guy.

16 Feb 2024 11:24:34
Gola, very true I forgot Fofana. I generally enjoy all comments, opinions and even rumours particularly if they have a semblance of fact.

15 Feb 2024 11:41:47
Maybe CFC are broke Tom?

15 Feb 2024 11:48:52
Tom Osimhen will be sold to highest bidder and that won't be Chelsea. If we get or Vlahovic we should be more than happy.
Hopefully we will get rid off Sterling and Mudryk.

16 Feb 2024 11:31:56
Buying 3 wingers for £150m and replacing them after 1 - 2 years, don’t see a lot of clubs do that, not well run and well advised clubs anyway.

16 Feb 2024 11:34:12
The point being, 2 years into a billion pound rebuild we should be fining tuning, adding what’s missing, We’re not close to fine tuning if we are almost starting over

Mudryk Sterling noni coming in under ownership and we COULD after 2 years / 1 year being looking to replace

Striker - still needed

Badishile KK disasi fofana + Colwill silva chalobah - still looking at a top CB

Just bit amateurish Tom we could still be so active in the market, it means we’re admitting we haven’t done well enough, the cycle needs to stop, we should be adding one player here and there not still needing 5/ 6 in squad,

My thoughts anyway, if I post these after a loss it’s reactionary and negative so just making point we still have lots to do if we are moving so many on, we might not even be after moving Sterling / mudryk or noni, Cuccurella might stay, Gallagher trev too.

16 Feb 2024 13:41:24
Let me answer the above three posts I turn.

1) Chelsea are NOT “broke”

1) It would be astonishing if Osimhen didn’t leave to the highest bidding club. I wouldn’t have a clue if that will be Chelsea. I like the lad from Juve but I would prefer us to get our No1 choice.

2) Matt, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Certainly the gooners thought that Mudryk was worth a significant transfer fee. Apparently Mudryk has had personal issues and Sterling is a lot better than last season (low bar) . Noni is a young player whose performances are so up and down and typical of a young lad. I would take the lad from Palace all day long.

16 Feb 2024 14:21:59
Being able to count would be an advantage!

16 Feb 2024 17:01:22
Sorry Matt, I didn’t respond to your point about wanting another CB when we potentially have six still on the books after Silva leaves in the summer.

We unfortunately let Tomri leave and MG who is now apparently wanted by several top clubs and is captain of Palace. We have to start giving these players an opportunity to prove themselves as players as well as potential leaders.

14 Feb 2024 08:48:42
Ed002 reports that we are talking to Everton about Onana and in negotiations, any truth? And are we interested at all? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Amadou Onana (DM/CB/CM) Only moved to Everton in 2022 and they are not looking to sell him but with troubles mounting they may have to listen to offers. West Ham interest has moved on but Arsenal may look again after failing to agree alternatives. Newcastle spoke with Everton in the summer and have failed to sign their primary DM/CM target but will return if he is not available. Manchester United had him a long way down their list of targets but failed to sign preferred options in the summer and he may still be of interest, but I rather doubt it. Chelsea have him on a list of midfield options but not at the top, and Barcelona may look to some horsetrading.}

15 Feb 2024 09:11:02
When people talk about a spine of a team, this man is your backbone, 6’3 and recorded 6th fastest sprint speed, .3 slower than Anthony Gordon, can slip into CB when needed, covers massive areas while Caciedo could cover the small spaces, I read someone say his a typical pick profile of a cm, and a response saying it’s not a poch profile it’s a profile than is required in winning teams in premier league. Carrick - sir Alex, Jose - matic, pep - rodri, arteta - rice, klopp - Fabinho

Could play along side any of enzo lavia caicedo Gallagher too. Any partnership.

16 Feb 2024 01:25:59
Do we really need another midfielder? Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Lavia, Ugochukwu, Santos, Chucky and Casedei. Granted I imagine at least 2 of the last 4 will probs go on loan again next season but don’t think we really need to be signing another CM unless Gallagher leaves.

09 Feb 2024 16:20:41
Ed

It's increasingly obvious that clubs are looking to increase capacity to assist with PSR.

In view of the countless problems we have with our location, do you feel that the best and quickest way forward would be to move and build a brand new stadium from scratch elsewhere.

I just feel that Roman drew a blank and our new owners are already having issues with locals and I also feel there is going to be massive media pressure on us buying the land from Stoll where most of the veterans would need to be re-housed which they are reluctant to happen as they are in a nice area.

{Ed002's Note - it is of that simple.}

09 Feb 2024 23:08:45
Moving is the only option but the ever annoying cpo make that very impossible because If we move were no longer chelsea.

Spending 2 billion pounds to increase capacity by only 10000 seems very silly, I don't understand the finances in that but we really need to have the option to again extend that in the future.

10 Feb 2024 02:57:40
I feel very tired and very rough but I have to respond to the comment “the ever annoying CPO. ”

Actually, what’s the point, it just more unwanted drivel directed at anything Chelsea.

See you all later!

10 Feb 2024 08:53:44
I'm with Tom on this, I'm too young to remember it but my dad tells me about cpo and everything they did to help save the bridge and make sure its home to Chelsea, I don't want to move.
I would knock down the shed and hotels and build a bigger shed, stick the away fans in east upper.

10 Feb 2024 11:33:18
Steve and other posters who are really interested in the CPO and it’s updated understanding on any CFC stadium renovation or potential move, to look up the CPO minutes for January 2024.

If any poster is interested in its board members, current financials, future functions or a list of past players who are presidents (John Terry) or vice presidents, the likes of DW, JFH, MD any many others, I suggest you look on the CPO website. Some might find it interesting and educational.

10 Feb 2024 12:47:44
Thanks Tom, I understand a new stadium somewhere else will look amazing and bring in a lot of revenue but for me I'd rather be Chelsea football club playing at a 42 thousand bridge than the club in North London with a chicken standing on a tennis ball as a badge playing in a state of the art 60 thousand stadium with no trophies.

09 Feb 2024 19:53:18
Thank you Ed.

10 Feb 2024 10:17:36
Hope u are recovering Tom.

As Tom knows, for years the CPO have protected our clubs existence after a very dark time when we nearly lost our home with a potential ground share with Fulham which I believe would eventually have put us out of business.

Having said that it might be a good idea for both them and the CST to come out and let supporters know how they would feel if the owners wanted to move or indeed wanted to have the stadium re-named.

It would also be interesting to hear their thoughts on the struggles both Roman and our new owners are having with local people in trying to expand SB ( which is their right as they live there) . I'm pretty sure the local council are still in the mindset of helping us expand but maybe ED002 can confirm if this is true.

My original post is because I see other clubs being able to move a short distance or expand on the existing site without the serious issues Roman and our necowners face which is holding our club back financially.

10 Feb 2024 15:59:17
Sorry Bill, I wasn't dismissing your post.

10 Feb 2024 18:35:53
No worries Steve, I did not take it that way all is good.

10 Feb 2024 20:08:25
Bill, thanks for your concern, I’m ok thanks. I will take it easy for a few days and then await the results. Fingers crossed the new treatments work.

10 Feb 2024 20:58:48
The only fans that don't appreciate the CPO are overseas fans who have never set foot inside Stamford bridge.

10 Feb 2024 23:54:16
Fingers and toes crossed for you Tom, hope you are well and back with us soon.

11 Feb 2024 00:08:19
Sure they helped the club back in the day but with this whole stadium thing they are absolutely holding the club back. We can hold around 40000, very poor number for a club who has been the most successful club in the last 15 years.

An upgrade to 60000 is fine as long as tgere are capabilities to further expand that to 80000 in the future.

11 Feb 2024 07:28:27
How about “when your in a hole stop digging. ”

Again, it’s typical to use a word like “absolutely” when you have little clue about the CPO.

I’m personally not bothered about moving away from Stamford Bridge. Places like Battersea and Earls Court have been mentioned in the past. The former is not going to happen and the last report I saw in the CPO minutes was something like “the current owners/ developers have NO plans for a football stadium on the site” and “Hammersmith and Fulham council are COMPLETELY against a football stadium at Earls Court. ”

Of cousre things can change but I can’t see to many suitably sized plots of land becoming available in that area in the near future.

The club have said it is considering all options. It has also said it welcomes the opportunity to discuss all of the options with ALL of its partners. Those partners include the CPO.

Also, we are called Chelsea” for a reason!

11 Feb 2024 10:25:36
Im happy with staying at Stamford Bridge as well and surely there must be a way of extending with a bit of clever architecture.

I do wonder if the club considered or bid for the site being relocated to Imperial Wharf right next to Chelsea Harbour for those who don’t know. Over the last sort of 15 years there has been a huge amount of building work going on round there and surely would have been enough room for a new stadium.

11 Feb 2024 11:06:01
Whitey, it was reported that Roman was one of the under bidders for th Battersea power station site. I’m Tod that that redevelopment is spectacular.

The problem is that riverside sites are a premium for house builders. There seems to be more profit in building homes than football stadiums.

Most clubs are named because of there locality to a particular area. I remember some of my West Ham supporting mates saying it was wrong to have there name attached to a stadium in Stratford. I think that was more to do with them not wanting to leave Upton Park and the chicken run.

Chelsea as a location is in my opinion prestigious and should be a fantastic marketing factor for our club. If I remember correctly we are about 3 miles from Buckingham Pacace and not much more from Westminster Abbey. Also only a step or two away from the “trendy” Kings Rd. These things are all promotional positives for our “unique club and its location. ”.

12 Feb 2024 09:07:19
Standard, please stop embarrassing yourself.

12 Feb 2024 19:23:21
Tom, the owners have a really difficult problem about Stamford Bridge. A lot of top clubs are redeveloping their grounds to compete to increase capacity and generate more revenue particularly because of the ever changing financial sustainability regulations. Stamford Bridge is outdated and certainly cannot be described as a 21st century stadium. What to do about it is the issue. I have always believed that building a 60,000 seater stadium on the current site is practically and financially infeasible. Personally, I don’t have a problem with moving or re- naming the stadium if it benefits the club.
As for” there is a reason we are called Chelsea” that is open to debate; technically we are not talking n Chelsea. The main reason we are called Chelsea is that Fulham FC had already been founded and admitted to the Football League many years before we joined. Apparently other options for our name would included Kensington FC and London FC.
I don’t believe that our prestigious location is significantly helpful in generating revenue. I believe it is actually a hindrance to redevelopment. Along with the site line issues the increasing affluence around the ground will make planning applications more difficult and protracted.
Finally, I hope you make a full and speedy recovery from your treatment.

{Ed002's Note - The issue with the stadium is related to something else entirely.}

12 Feb 2024 21:15:27
Jimbo, thanks I am recovering from a new treatment that has knocked me a bit sideways.

Like you I have never felt emotionally attached to Stamford Bridge. I am attached to the name Chelsea and whatever the history was about how our club got its name it is the name Chelsea and what it stands for that I support.

I’ve always considered the name and the club’s location in London to be a positive. If I had a marketing hat to put on I would be licking my lips at the thought of selling the club in general and particularly its up market location.

If I remember correctly the stadium proposal Roman put forward was for a 60k capacity. I attended the meeting that took place about 10 years ago. It wasn’t the best meeting I have attended but I voted with Roman/ club. If I remember correctly I think the vote was 60/ 40 but a 75% majority was required. I also seem to remember the then chairman of the CPO resigned. The new owners have stated that they want a constructive dialogue with all of its partners and that includes the CPO.

12 Feb 2024 23:15:56
I don’t know everything about the issues surrounding the stadium perfectly but upgrading it like Liverpool stand by stand would barely add 10,000 seats and I believe it was said to cost roughly £30,000/ seat.

Even if we could get planning permission from surrounding neighbours (who at the moment seem to be against the re-build), can acquire the needed land, can overcome the fact that the land is surrounded by a train track and 2 roads, we still have the issue of egress. There’s not the infrastructure to have more than 55k people leaving the stadium.

Abramovich had people working on the idea for near on 10 years and just about managed to come up with a plan to dig down in order to facilitate a stadium at 58k? The cost was around 1.4bn which was 2 years ago now so undoubtedly would be much higher given how prices have changed since. Not to mention it would require us to find another home for 3-4 years. I believe Wembley said no at the time (maybe they’d change their mind as it would have been back to back with spuds sharing at the time, and perhaps since it’ll have been a few years they might be open to it again) or sharing either with Fulham or palace I believe were the other options.

Ultimately we have 3 choices. Stay at 42k with an outdated stadium. Spend an exorbitant amount on a rebuild to get to 55-60k and have no further chance for expansion in the future, or relocate to a nearby location where we can build a stadium at whatever capacity we need (within reason) at a lower price than a rebuild, with the potential of future expansion, whilst allowing for the redevelopment of Stamford bridge into apartments or w/ e to fund the new stadium.

If a suitable nearby location comes up I think we need to grab it with both hands.

13 Feb 2024 06:44:53
Just on financial and time scale agreements I agree with you Fuser although if we left I'm not quite sure who would profit from the sale if SB, the club or the CPO's, perhaps Tom could help with this question if he is upto to it at the moment with his health issue.

Tom, hope your health is improving day by day.

13 Feb 2024 08:15:00
Bill, it will be a few days yet before I’m firing on all cylinders.

The CPO wasn’t set up as a for profit organisation. In fact the annual budget is usually set at break even. It’s raises funds by selling shares and a few functions each year that are usually open to non shareholders.

It was set up to protect the name and the Chelsea estate. I’m not going to talk for the other shareholders but I think if the new owners put forward a proposal that means security for the club and its name the CPO shareholders would be happy enough. Remember the CPO is a democratic organisation run by its members.

13 Feb 2024 09:50:28
Does anyone know what the issue is with redeveloping the stadium?
Also, are there any sites available that could house a new stadium?

{Ed002's Note - The issue was where the team would play with Earls Court no longer an option.}

13 Feb 2024 11:19:42
Just to tack on to Tom's excellent and informative post above re the CPO - until the club presents an option for the CPO to vote on, the CPO has absolutely no input into the stadium discussions. There literally isn't a proposal to vote on so what exactly could the CPO even be in opposition to?

Further to this, and sorry for repeating myself, but if you are still unhappy at the CPO despite all the above, you can just buy a share and have your say. You aren't restricted to moaning about it.

But again, there is nothing at the moment for you to have your say on, so you will be shouting into the wind against your perceived adversaries.

13 Feb 2024 13:06:21
RBD, spot on mate.

I say again, the new owners have said they will continue to communicate with all the stakeholders and that includes the CPO.

The CPO provides the minutes to its meetings in a regular basis for all fans to read.