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14 Mar 2024 11:03:40
ED02 if I may, are we interested in Leny Yoro?
{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}
11 Mar 2024 18:27:34
So PSR is being scrapped.
1.) 11 Mar 2024 21:04:28
what is that likely to mean teams can spend what they want.
2.) 11 Mar 2024 22:30:09
It’s not being scrapped ? it’s changing slightly to match UEFA’s FSR, pretty much the same thing really. Clubs only being allowed to spend 85% of turnover on wages and transfers. Think there’s still things to figure out but don’t think it’ll change tooo much.
3.) 11 Mar 2024 22:59:21
Fuser, it is being scrapped mate.
4.) 12 Mar 2024 22:51:49
I’m sorry but very few fan’s understand FFP and my guess would be very few will understand any new proposals.
Why do we bother with worrying about it? If our club has in some way in the past we f? cked up then we deserve to be punished and if it happens for a future offence, so be it.
5.) 13 Mar 2024 12:39:24
Tom fans are allowed to care about the finances if they want too. I'm more supirsed when people don't care. It's one of the most important things in the sport. Do you expect an American to not care about the salary cap in the nba or nfl?
Again, 'so be it' in response to cheating is a bit too 'turn the other way' ish to me. I'm obviously not saying we're cheating, i think we skirt the rulez but that's okay
but if we were cheating I'd be a bit dissapointed.
6.) 13 Mar 2024 15:35:41
Standard, let me know when you understand FFP or PSR. I’m honest enough to say I don’t understand either of them.
I repeat if we are ever punished for breaking any rules I’m not going to bleat about. I will just assume that we deserve it.
Unlike you I have seen zero evidence that suggests we
“Skirt the rules. ” As far as I’m concerned, a team either conforms to the so called rules or breaks them.
7.) 13 Mar 2024 15:49:11
I should have also added that even if I did understand FFP and PSR I wouldn’t have a clue about the CFC”s financial position and how to apply it to FFP or PSR.
8.) 14 Mar 2024 04:54:01
I understand the amortisation pretty simply. Why are you so stand-offish and defensive?
An example of skirting the rules would be amortisation over an 8 year period rather than the standard 5, it was considered a loophole and it was subsequently stopped. If the rule isn't in place, absolutely make the most of it I say but I'd say that's an example of skirting, and not in a bad way.
9.) 14 Mar 2024 06:08:50
So like me you don’t understand FFP or PSR.
Also, working within the rules isn’t “skirting the rules. ”.
10.) 14 Mar 2024 06:41:49
Standard
How is it skirting the rule when there was no rule in place that we could not do deals over an 8 year period.
The rule has since been amended so that we can't do that going forward as you mentioned.
11.) 14 Mar 2024 07:06:11
Bill, I’m probably wrong but I think the “term” of a contract can still run for any agreeable duration.
12.) 14 Mar 2024 07:21:56
Bill I used the worst skirting, not breaking. There was nothing wrong with it as there was no rule in place as explained. But it was a method used to get around ffp absolutely, and although it is risky, I think it smart.
Tom as I typed, I understand it, it really isn't that hard to understand. Did you misread or something?
13.) 14 Mar 2024 07:42:57
Good, so you can now explain FFP and PSR to the posters on this site when we have a question on the subject.
So, under the current rules is there a maximum term/ duration for a players contract?
That’s my first question. I will have loads more over the coming seasons.
14.) 14 Mar 2024 11:18:13
I'm not sure what I've done to deserve this hostility Tom. I apologise if I've upset you somehow. I've actually stuck up for you a few times on here. dissapointing.
15.) 14 Mar 2024 12:32:00
I’m not sure what is “hostile” about asking a question on subject you “understand” but ho hum if you can’t answer the question no problems.
I find it very “disappointing” when I’m constantly miss-quoted by you but I guess that’s the way things are in life.
Just as aside im never that bothered when my opinions are different from other posters. I can’t imagine being a person who would gloat about victory or prefer defeat just to prove a point. God, what a s@it life that would be!
16.) 14 Mar 2024 22:40:10
I'm constantly miss quoted by you also so that's quite ironic. I've suggested many times for you to slow down and read my post again because multiple multiple times you've misquoted or misunderstood me.
17.) 15 Mar 2024 06:54:31
I assume “misunderstood” is a poker term for a crap hand.
18.) 15 Mar 2024 22:48:55
And you've confirmed my point. If you're just going to be negative to my every post why bother replying?
19.) 16 Mar 2024 03:10:49
Surely the point of posting anything is to get a reply, regardless if any reply is positive or negative!
20.) 16 Mar 2024 10:17:23
Tom, to be clear on the hostility Standard is referring to, your replies have come across extremely passive aggressive. Whether you meant it that way or not, that is how it reads. Furthermore, Standard also explained to you that he understood about the amortisation part of FFP, however you decided this clearly meant he claimed to understand FFP as a whole.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with two different views on a subject and having a debate, however your replies are becoming predictable every single time anyone talks about money. You simply say you don’t care about the finances as you don’t understand aspects of it. If this is the case then that’s absolutely fine - however it is far from constructive in consistently repeating that statement across multiple threads. You may not care, others certainly do. What others care about is completely up to them.
FFP is a big thing in the game at the moment, and for the foreseeable future, many people are going to be interested in this and to varying degrees of an understanding. You need to just get used to this instead of calling the pot pink.
21.) 16 Mar 2024 10:53:26
Cech, I have said many times I do not understand FFP or PSR and I have also given my opinion that both terms are generally weaponised. Every single time I’ve asked a poster to explain them both to me I get zero information.
I am well aware of the term “amortisation” and what it it means but as I don’t know if it’s application at a football club applies to all players (ladies, juniors included) all staff, general capex, salaries, bonuses and transfer fees.
I would humbly suggest that instead of expressing concern about FFP or PSR posters just ask a question or if they have a “factual” comment to make on the subject they express them. Any answers on the subject or factual comment would be helpful to me and I’m sure lots of other posters.
Apparently I have a habit as coming across as “passive aggressive. ” That would never be my intention and I obviously apologise for any unintentional offence caused to any poster.
22.) 16 Mar 2024 20:50:30
Your personal understanding of FFP, PSR or amortisation on the broader scale is slightly redundant in terms of what we are currently talking about though Tom?
Firstly just because your understanding of them isn’t at the required level, does not mean that the rest of us should not be able to comment or express concerns on the matter.
Secondly, if anyone here does understand FFP et al, they are under absolutely no obligation whatsoever to divulge that information to either you, myself or anyone else that has questions on the matter. That however does not mean that their contributions to the page should become mute. However if you don’t agree with it by all means share your side. But don’t constantly suggest that others shouldn’t talk about financial or other matters just because you have no interest in them.
I tend to find myself agreeing with a lot you say Tom, however the constant disregard of others concern or questions/ information regarding FFP et al is, simply put, infuriating at times. Anyway, i’m not going to carry on with this, I just hoped to explain to you how it looks from another perspective. I hope you’re well and sending you all the best.
23.) 16 Mar 2024 21:41:32
Cech, of course my understanding or lack of understanding FFP is redundant hence the reason I ask for clarification on how accurate the comments are on the subject. As far as I’m concerned that is one of the selling points of the site.
Surely posting we are are likely to be in breach of any rules needs some explanation.
You and others may well find my “constant disregard” of other people’s concerns about FFP or PSR “infuriating” but I can see no problem in asking the reasons for a such concerns. I find it equally infuriating when fans use the term without any supporting argument.
At some stage it may well happen that we are in breach of some rule or other and if that is the case we will deserve to be punished.
I fully understand fans having concerns about our club’s finances. That’s fine as far as I’m concerned but surely I’m allowed to ask the question why those concerns exist or express my ambivalence.
My health isn’t to bad at the moment thanks Cech. I go back into hospital mid April but hopefully just for an MOT. Stay safe mate.
23 Jun 2023 10:11:52
Looks like our great servant Azpi is also now leaving, a true club legend. The clearout continues at such a pace, well done to the club. Some thought it would not be easy to clear the decks. looking forward to seeing some incoming players now.
1.) 23 Jun 2023 16:07:23
G8, the same applies to Dave as it does for Kante.
I hope we get a chance to give them both individual farewells sooner rather than later.
Two legends in my opinion.
2.) 23 Jun 2023 21:13:29
I wish him well at Inter Milan.
3.) 23 Jun 2023 22:01:16
Dave and Kante going is a changing of the guards moment. I wish them both well but they are leaving with a sackful of medals which they richly deserve.
22 May 2023 20:53:25
Don't shoot the messenger but Mason Mount will sign a new contract with Chelsea. Trust me.
1.) 22 May 2023 21:36:31
Hope is a dangerous thing to give to a man, G8. And giving me hope is exactly what you've done now.
I hope you're well informed :)
2.) 22 May 2023 21:40:06
All stories this evening are it’s almost impossible and out of United Liverpool arsenal and possibly Bayern ( easy tuchel link )
I want him to stay, I think there should be some give and take where neither club are completely happy with the offer and player budges and isn’t completely happy but a deal is signed, but his spoke to klopp, he wants to go, we will have to sell,
Mount out Maddison in? Think his attitude is terrible but if foxes go down?
3.) 22 May 2023 21:42:01
Praying you are right G8.
4.) 22 May 2023 22:06:28
G8, I hope you are correct but I think it’s more likely he will leave. I think Klopp has already reached out to him or his representatives.
5.) 23 May 2023 04:01:39
Lol the club are morons if they lose mount.
6.) 23 May 2023 09:21:20
Maybe he asked for such high wages knowing the club would never meet them then he can leave saying its the clubs fault, not mine.
7.) 23 May 2023 09:49:05
Bill, I think if Mount and the club can’t agree on a new contract they will part amicably.
It’s not as if this situation is unusual.
8.) 23 May 2023 10:24:35
Heart ruling head but I have backed Mount to stay at Chelsea. The price of 15/ 8 was too big to resist.
9.) 23 May 2023 13:38:17
Just me then who’s not bothered if he goes don’t see with the players we have coming through and the likes of Chukwuemeka are.
10.) 23 May 2023 13:42:10
Santos Chukwuemeka Hutchinson enzo kante and the others we are interested in I don’t see him getting him. I think he will end up at Liverpool as I Henderson replacement.
11.) 23 May 2023 14:26:49
Nib, you are not alone, some fans don’t rate him now and never have.
We all see player’s differently but he would be in the first eleven for most top Premiership teams in my opinion.
12.) 23 May 2023 17:01:19
Unlikely dream scenario is that Mount signs and Rice joins.
13.) 23 May 2023 22:34:47
Nib, not just you I don’t care and am completely bored with it.
23 Aug 2022 21:33:40
Bit of news my fellow blues, Anthony Gordon is a TT pick, quick, works hard, strong, full of courage. Conte loves him as well for the same reasons. Can cover as well. He is joining.
Likely Broja goes the other way on loan. a top talent and will improve us, negative sisters will hate of course, looking forward to their reactions when the boy shows just how good he is. as ED02 says, forget the price tag.
PEA is on his way as well, our first choice will be the target for next summer but PEA can and will do a job, confident and prolific, a very good capture. 2 more will come in, a centre back and a midfielder.
1.) 23 Aug 2022 21:56:17
G8, thanks for the update and I agree with almost all of your post. Including the sentiment.
2.) 23 Aug 2022 22:13:06
I couldn’t see how releasing Gordon made sense for Everton, especially given the departure of Richarlison and the funds raised through that. But, if Broja goes the other way on Loan and PEA comes in short term, then I can see the logic all round.
Obviously, I have no idea if any of the above is true!
3.) 23 Aug 2022 22:20:03
Fatduck, I can also see the logic and you are also correct about how believable these stories are.
4.) 23 Aug 2022 23:15:15
Conte loves him so much that they didn’t go above a reported £35m for him, it’s not just the price tag g8 it’s value for money, 60m plus add ins, 50 plus appearances and 6 goals, why not keep what we have, ?
5.) 24 Aug 2022 00:12:39
I don’t see the value in Gordon at all, think there’s far far better options out there. Will support him if he comes though.
6.) 24 Aug 2022 00:20:48
Last season was the 1st time his completed a proper season in his life, his stats were awful too. We think 60+ million for him is a good deal now? Yes we are desperate for players but his NOT a priority. It's laughable knowing we could sign genuine class players for that fee.
7.) 24 Aug 2022 01:20:26
Like i said yesterday. The money is absolutely relevant. I'm quick, I work hard and I'm strong. I'm sh**, but atleast I have those qualities right?
Good pick-up If it's at a low cost price. 60 million is a Gabriel jesus.
8.) 24 Aug 2022 05:29:18
Did the club want Jesus?
9.) 24 Aug 2022 07:25:42
I'm underwhelmed by tuchel signings. Now is a critical part for the new owners as they also want to back the coach but unfortunately tuchel does look out idea what kind players he should bring in. I'm not confident enough with his choice of signings. Especially when I expect him to move with precision in the market for positions that improving but he doesn't know what profile of players he should chase. If the right players are not brought in he's likely going to put Todd and Co into instability in a few years.
Again there will be a time we would have to choose between our talented players and tuchel because tuchel is not good enough in attacking set up which haresulted in selling lukaku, and a werner and I'm not sure if the remainders are happy with their situation. I would certainly let tuchel go instead of selling our talents for his own inadequacy.
I'm not optimistic for the season even when because we don't have a balanced squad which I blame tuchel for the unbalanced squad. He should have articulated his team even before the last season ended because its clear our shortcomings were obvious.
10.) 24 Aug 2022 07:52:12
G8 - has Olive also changed jobs with change of ownership. Is she working now at the Mykonos villa of Boehly instead of Abramovich Yatch?
11.) 24 Aug 2022 10:32:49
Don't start that crap again.
12.) 24 Aug 2022 10:40:43
She is a scaffolder now CFC_manalii.
13.) 24 Aug 2022 11:56:03
So, usually, I don't care about price tags, my worry here is based off it though.
I don't claim to know much about Gordon, but 60 mil does seem excessive. The only way it isn't is if he becomes excellent/ world class. Which means we wouldn't be selling him, so we're not paying this money to make a potential profit, if that makes sense?
Now, there's potential that he doesn't work out and we're in the hole for over 60mil (inc wages that is) . Who is going to want to pay close to that so we're covered?
For that sort of money, I'd be looking for a signing that improves the 1st team immediately. Considering what we spent on Chukwuemeka and Casadei, who are of similar experience, 60 mil seems a bit too much.
14.) 24 Aug 2022 16:52:09
As you mentioned - Who is the preferred target for next summer?
15.) 24 Aug 2022 19:44:18
Nkunku.
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20 Apr 2024 09:39:38
Total respect to Enzo, has been playing through injury most of the season and may well need corrective surgery at some point. Old school attitude to help the team. I like that in a player and when fully fit I believe he will silence the doubters. Top player.
1.) 20 Apr 2024 10:37:28
Agreed G8 and also he is a young player so will only get better.
18 Apr 2024 14:51:50
The decision to scrap FA Cup replays is a total disgrace. Everything is now geared to the elite and premier league. The joy of a lower league club coming out the hat against a "bigger" club away from home, grabbing a draw and taking them back to their little ground will be gone. The revenue from more than one Cup tie will be gone. The excitement for that clubs fans and all it means to the local community of getting that replay will be gone. We are talking about history here.
1.) 18 Apr 2024 17:17:09
Totally agree G8, it's a total disgrace, they may as well scrap the cup competitions.
What they should and could do is if for example Orient are drawn away to Chelsea, the tie is transferred to Orient"s ground.
2.) 18 Apr 2024 18:39:20
Awful for lower league clubs.
3.) 18 Apr 2024 20:35:52
I agree but it doesn’t help that PL coaches are constantly moaning about fixture congestion. The clubs, managers and players are more than happy for TV broadcasting cash which has increased income for all those involved.
4.) 18 Apr 2024 21:51:23
The power and lure the big teams have and the power the broadcasters have has and is chipping away at the football pyramid,
Remember the super league talk, the premier league and uefa spoke about the fans and the pyramid and the history but between them they are doing a good job in ruining it. Just goes to show it wasn’t about a super league and the lower levels of English football but they didn’t want anyone else having a slice of the pie.
Replays have saved teams, a good away draw can pay the wages and bills for over a year, for some of these teams.
14 Apr 2024 18:45:53
You just never know in this league, who would of thought Liverpool and Arsenal would both lose at home today? Liverpool 1 title in 33 years and Arsenal 1 title in 20 years. Funny old game.
1.) 14 Apr 2024 19:36:06
Blimey that’s a long time. So Leicester have won more premierships in the last twenty years than the gooners and the same as the scousers in the last 33 years. It’s a funny old game!
I suppose we should remember that the scousers are the only team to have won anything so far this season.
I wonder how long ago Utd and the spuds last won a premiership?
2.) 14 Apr 2024 21:52:06
When did Spurs last win the league Tom? Someone on here called them a bigger club than us a while back?.
3.) 14 Apr 2024 22:12:14
G8, I guess winning the league Wes probably in the 60’s. I can’t remember the last time they won any trophy. It’s the old joke “best stadium in the world, smallest trophy cabinet in the world.
I’m not sure the poster said “bigger club” but I think it was “higher standing. ” than Chelsea.
Anyway, they will probably have Champions League football next season and I will be envious of that.
4.) 14 Apr 2024 22:25:48
I don't think they will get Champions League Tom. No chance. Villa have that sown up and the Prem will get 4 places with Gooners and West ham going out this coming week. Doesn't effect Chelsea in the slightest.
5.) 14 Apr 2024 23:20:36
Thanks TomB. A poor cheap shot from G8. I said better position, as in higher income, better stadium and better current squad. Nothing about them being better than us in the last decade or last 20 years though obviously. But G8 can think what he likes.
6.) 15 Apr 2024 09:41:41
I agree with Standard, Spurs are currently run better than us financially, have a better coach and of course a better stadium than ours.
That been said I believe we do have a brighter future if the ground gets built and we can keep out talented young players.
7.) 15 Apr 2024 10:01:23
They certainly have a better stadium than us and only time will tell if they are run better than us financially.
Im just a supporter, so for me the main measurement of a well run club is winning trophies. On that metric the current owners/ management are a total failure.
{Ed001's Note - so clubs such as Rochdale cannot be well run according to you then?}
8.) 15 Apr 2024 10:39:10
Of course they can be well run. I guess it depends on how you measure success. I choose to measure it by the winning of trophies. Other fans might well see staying in a division as success.
{Ed001's Note - you said the main measurement is trophies, but small clubs can't do that can they? That is a ridiculous assertion as the trophies are mostly being picked up by a bunch of cheats who buy the trophies, leaving nothing for actual well run clubs to win anyway.}
9.) 15 Apr 2024 10:51:55
Ed, I said for “me” the main measurement is
winning trophies. Other fans clubs and commentators can choose any other criteria they like to measure success.
10.) 15 Apr 2024 11:45:31
I totally agree with you ED01, many clubs are well run throughout the football pyramid and deserve great praise as well. I have been involved in football for many years and the amount of volunteers who put many hours into non-league clubs be it mowing the lawn, operating turnstiles, running the bar, making hot dogs, arranging fixtures etal is highly commendable and so often overlooked. The clubs with the most money in all leagues from the Premier down to tier 9 and beyond always consistently win the trophies.
{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. I dated a woman who was a secretary for a non-League club for a while. The amount of work she put in was insane, as well as holding down a full-time job. I have nothing but respect for those who run small clubs and keep them going despite a lack of funds coming in.}
13 Apr 2024 14:23:22
Spurs going all Spursy. nothing changes.
11 Apr 2024 21:53:28
Gasperini would do me as our next manager. Took the scouse apart. love it.
1.) 11 Apr 2024 22:07:17
Not a good result for the Premiership or Champions League qualification positions.
2.) 11 Apr 2024 22:14:51
I don't care about that Tom, doesn't effect Chelsea.
3.) 12 Apr 2024 04:07:47
It might well affect Chelsea.
19 Apr 2024 10:22:15
If you read the posts it has already been stated we have no interest in Isak.
18 Apr 2024 09:02:44
Would be a good signing I think, we don't want to block the pathway of Jackson by buying another young player. His experience could prove invaluable.
15 Apr 2024 09:58:51
So would I Tom. For clarity, I was asking the question about Conor playing in the 6!
14 Apr 2024 22:21:30
Read the posts Pochempire and keep up?.
14 Apr 2024 20:42:39
I agree with you Blueboy1 in the 10 role but would you play him deeper in place of Moises or Enzo?
19 Apr 2024 15:06:29
Maybe take that up with the old regime? That was under Roman's remit.
P. S do you ever sleep in Australia?.
19 Apr 2024 13:25:41
Not sure if you were aware but we were sanctioned at the time his contract was up for renewal and unable to do anything. I hope this helps. It also added to the club needing to spend millions on centre backs as AC was also out of contract as well. These vital points are often missed when lazy journo's and trolls reference the clubs spending.
17 Apr 2024 11:50:32
I would imagine the plan might be as follows Bill.
Agreed in principle
Maatsen. To Dortmund
Hall. To Newcastle
Leave (assuming all parties agree)
Lukaku
Silva (out of contract)
Sarr
Ziech
Kepa
Broja
Maybe Conor? if contracts can't be agreed.
Marc Curcurella? I think ED said he might be made available.
I'm sure discussions will then be had with all the current loanees and young players around the squad as to whether they stay or go on loan.
16 Apr 2024 15:56:42
Wrong again lol.
15 Apr 2024 11:45:31
I totally agree with you ED01, many clubs are well run throughout the football pyramid and deserve great praise as well. I have been involved in football for many years and the amount of volunteers who put many hours into non-league clubs be it mowing the lawn, operating turnstiles, running the bar, making hot dogs, arranging fixtures etal is highly commendable and so often overlooked. The clubs with the most money in all leagues from the Premier down to tier 9 and beyond always consistently win the trophies.
{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. I dated a woman who was a secretary for a non-League club for a while. The amount of work she put in was insane, as well as holding down a full-time job. I have nothing but respect for those who run small clubs and keep them going despite a lack of funds coming in.}