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23 Jan 2025 12:37:44
Usually the debates are on which player and how much, on social media I'd say the fan base is united in the frustration of lack of movement for glaring concerns with midfield cover being and the season being in tact hanging in Caceido not missing any games, the Douglas luiz loan option made a lot of sense, knows league ask was key to villa getting top 4 and is a position we are craving with Lavia unable to play 2 games in a row. fact we've loaned them veiga something could of been done.

City buying Marmoush stings, striker who plays off the left, would cover 2 places / positions, read a coach describe him as unpredictable and solves problems.

Time to accept a striker won't be joining in Jan, to difficult a market and we don't want to overpay, more anger that's it's 6 windows and we still crave that position,

I believe this will be the last window for some of the decision makers at the club. Think maybe one or both the sporting directors will be changed, the direction shouldn't be young potential but some needle movers and title challenging players, more experienced players.

23 Jan 2025 13:19:35
I'm with you on the SD's Matt.

Their positions need looking at and at least one needs to go, to many cooks and all that.

23 Jan 2025 15:40:31
I wouldn’t have a clue if any of our SD’s will go or if we have one to many.

I can observe as a fan of the club. Would I have made some of the signings…. No. Am I happy with the majority of our recent signings…. Yes.

23 Jan 2025 15:48:30
Totally agree need only one sporting director and ideally one owner

If both of the sporting directors think Garnacho is a good idea they both should go.

23 Jan 2025 16:18:12
The strange thing about Garnacho and his career at Utd is I assumed that because they are supposedly the worst Utd team ever that there fans would have disliked him as a player but a lot of fans on there page seem to be upset at the prospect of him leaving.

23 Jan 2025 16:23:08
Tom would agree many buys have been excellent, I just like to have one person in the role.

Gives clear lines of responsibility.

We are obviously getting American owners who are used to the trading ways of baseball will be interesting to see how it turns out

The Enzo to Real Madrid is one rumour to keep an eye on.

23 Jan 2025 16:25:46
Spending £100m on Neto and Felix and then another £60m 6 months later on garnacho is a sackable offence so hopefully both go, these guys can’t build a squad or get close to it. It’s a shame that by time they are replaced the next person will have a harder job with moving on And bringing in with tighter ffp rules and no hotels / woman’s team to sell to a sister company,

23 Jan 2025 18:04:19
Matt who knows we might have a FOS by next season, we have only thrown away £40mil this season with the lack of one.

Also we are falling behind Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U and even Spurs in losing revenue with just a 42k capacity stadium, not a peep from the owners, probably still arguing whether to move or develop.

23 Jan 2025 18:10:15
Seymns, I haven’t got a clue what there job titles are or there lines if responsibility. They may well have different skill sets that compliment each other.

Matt, I would have signed Neto every day of the week and twice more on Sunday. I wouldn’t have signed Felix but I’m just giving my opinion. The SD’s are entitled to a different opinion and it’s certainly not a sackable offence to sign any player.

I haven’t got a clue about any new or tighter FFP rules and as far as I know we are not looking likely to break any anytime soon.

23 Jan 2025 18:30:46
Love different opinions, I most admit i am quite fickle three good games from a player then they are a good buy .

23 Jan 2025 19:02:10
Bill, I assume you have looked at the last FAB board minutes. The question of SB was asked and answered along with a promise of updates when there was something or anything new.

So, there will not be a “peep” until they have something to say. I suppose they could keep putting out press releases saying there is no change and the review is ongoing.

It’s been reported by several outlets that a FOS sponsor has hit difficulties because of an existing sponsorship. Also I think a little depends on the clubs performance this season but it’s hard to imagine a FOS sponsor will not be in place pre WCC. If.

23 Jan 2025 19:17:29
Tom

With regards to FFP, we still might have a problem if the valuation we have put on the ladies team is not accepted as a fair value.

23 Jan 2025 19:38:05
I’m assuming that the reported sale price of Chelsea Ladies is accurate? If so it looks a gross under valuation to me but then I can only see ladies football expanding over the next twenty years.

I would be astonished if there was an issue on valuation.

23 Jan 2025 19:54:31
Seymns, Garnacho would seem a strange signing to me but I have no idea about his abilities as a player or his attitude.

I would rather we stick with George as our 4th wide player as it seems as if Mudryk might be having a long holiday.

23 Jan 2025 21:18:22
Ok, for example then, Neto has been good, 22
Games 1 goal 2 assists £60m? That good

What players have been successful of the 1.5 billion

You take Caceido out this team you’ll struggle to see a top 4 team . Fine margins and these directors haven’t a clue how to fix it,

23 Jan 2025 22:21:43
Enjoying reading the thread: just to upset everyone here are my views:
The SDs are useless: apart from Palmer I can’t think of another decent signing: personally, I wouldn’t have signed: Neto, Sancho, KDH or Felix, none of them have made a significant impact.
The commercial side are also useless: effectively two seasons without a FOS sponsor.
As for PSR let’s not get too cocky; we’ve had to sell hotels and the women’s team within the group to comply. We still have a significant operating loss. We are running out of things to sell: what next supporters organs? As for SB development, most of us will be pushing up daises by the time a decision is made.

23 Jan 2025 22:23:42
Neto was top class against and every time I saw him for Wolves. He hasn’t played consistently well for us so far but I have no doubt that he will.

The team in my opinion was overdue an overhaul. As you say Caicedo is top class but so many on this site referred to him as a “donkey” or just a waist of money.

We are now challenging for champions league positions again and next year we will be challenging for the title. Maybe then some will see it as money well spent.

23 Jan 2025 22:51:55
Of recent signings Palmer Cacaido obvious successes think Lavia will be top class also like Gusto Tosin and Sancho Jackson, Neto has been a slight disappointment but a top player


Unsure on Madueke, Enzo Badiashille, KDH,


Fails Felix Diasi Sanchez.

23 Jan 2025 23:23:42
We are now challenging for Champions League place. Wow just like Arsenal used to do.

24 Jan 2025 00:56:04
Unfortunately Lavia won’t ever become world class because he is only young, been at Southampton a year Chelsea year and half and hasn’t hit 40 appearances including substitute appearances,

Dewsbury hall is a championship player and fact maresca had him in a title winning team for a year and he only got a chance because we had nobody else says it all,
Disasi badiashile Sanchez ddfofana sterling koulibaly aubamayang Washington sloninia mudryk Angelo casedei morrieria kellyman Caleb Wiley chuckmenku nkunku - how many have been real hits, even Fernandez has been very hit and miss, fofana also who’s been injured majority of his spell . But the sporting directors get praised and Joe shields praised because palmer, impressive

And we still need a goal keeper cb CM striker lol.

22 Jan 2025 07:39:09
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Football Pundits Spout Rubbish?

21 Jan 2025 20:53:07
For those interested there is a reasonably balanced assessment on Sanchez by Sky today. It's worth looking checking out.

22 Jan 2025 09:52:16
Tom

We can see for ourselves what a liability Sanchez is.

22 Jan 2025 10:19:16
Bill, I would have given Jorgensen a run in the team along time ago but it’s never a bad idea to listen to alternate views.

22 Jan 2025 13:18:41
I would agree with you Tom if it weren't for the fact Sanchez makes error after error almost every game.

Yes he haa made good saves but how many errors led to those saves in the first place.

22 Jan 2025 16:09:12
I’m not sure how many times I have said I would have given Jorgensen a run of games.

I’m not sure it’s accurate to say he has made errors game after game. I think most fans have made up their mind about him. So I think it will be hard for him to change the opinion of some fans.

22 Jan 2025 17:40:27
I've ackowledged that Sanchez is not a bad shot stopper and there have been games - if only most memorably the Bournemouth away fixture - when he was deservedly MoM for them. The trouble is that he does seem to do something silly when ball at his feet far too often that leads directly to opposition chance or a goal. This makes most of us nervous every time he has that ball at feet and his distribution is not great in general. His command of the box not generally as bad but of course v Wolves he flapped at the ball when he should have punched it. Overall he is no Cech or Courtois in their prime. Or Alison or Edison in terms of distribution ability though they are both in eraly 30s and Sanchez is younger at 27. But don't think many on here reckon he'll get to their level yet EM says his happy happy with RS. Perhaps by 2030 - ie Vision 2030 - he will get there but.

22 Jan 2025 19:49:40
I was never convinced about Edison as an all round keeper but that’s probably unfair. The only keeper I rate in the premiership is Alison.

21 Jan 2025 12:00:54
Few things, Adrian Durham of talk sport said something that I think was spot on at half time
" we've seen both Chelsea's today, the one keeping up with Liverpool playing great football and the one who are going to miss out of champions league football a half of two teams "

And also how pleased we all are for trev, all us fans knew he was better than disasi and badishile so it's good to have him back, now they need to swallow what's left of there pride and get Petrovic back for Sanchez because he doesn't help the nerves of this team.

21 Jan 2025 14:25:06
Matt, we got outplayed by Bournemouth at there place and we were bang average at Ipswich but generally we have performed well.

We do have passive periods in games and our game management has occasionally been poor. We also have periods in games when we look like the best team in the premiership. We are 4th in the league and most fans would have been happy with league position at the start of the season.

I have an opinion about Mr Durham that I will keep to myself.

20 Jan 2025 19:22:55
Sadly family circumstances have meant a last minute change of plan and I'm not at the bridge tonight.

Can't say I'm over enthusiastic about the team selection tonight but I assume injuries have forced the manager to make some changes.

Anyway, COME on MY MIGHTY BLUES.

20 Jan 2025 21:00:29
Sanchez it hasn’t just keeps starting him another goal given away how many more am not being funny but if he keeps picking Janet up top and him in net I hope the pressure starts on manager he’s bringing it on himself.

20 Jan 2025 21:01:45
Sorry you won't be there Tom . its half time and looks as though CFC are missing you. but given last fifteen minutes or so might be another good game to miss. After yet another bright start things fall apart again. Sanchez gives another goal away by not lunching the ball out. and did yet anothe sloppy pass out a bit earlier - but Wolves had gained control. Yet again we look to have nomplan B. Does EM have the tactical ability to do so? We will see in second half soon wnough but haven't seen any sense of tactical awareness or game management for many a game now. We look decidedly mid table mediocrity at times.

20 Jan 2025 21:09:26
looks like your not missing much Tom same rubbish different week😅.

20 Jan 2025 21:31:44
Thankfully we seem to be after finding a new life second half these last few weeks have been a tough watch up the blues.

20 Jan 2025 22:08:12
I suppose we will have to ask the question what did EM said to the team at half time? 😬

We had a poor 20 mins when we became far too passive. Other than that a pretty routine win.

20 Jan 2025 22:08:55
Can I say that on TV our fans were very quiet.

20 Jan 2025 22:16:47
Nib, what pressure?

20 Jan 2025 22:28:16
Yes good turnaround second half with Cucurella and TC and Caicedo all having good games. Neto and Sanchez not so good.

20 Jan 2025 22:40:00
A good and much needed win and thankfully we did not collapse in the second half.

Surely at some point, Sanchez has to be dropped and still no goal again from Jackson.

20 Jan 2025 23:12:55
I have no problem saying that I rate Jackson but he didn't have good game tonight. He is lacking confidence but that can come back quickly with a goal or two!

20 Jan 2025 23:53:45
what ever he said at half time it worked anyway tom b.

21 Jan 2025 07:33:12
Poch, we haven’t got a clue what gets said from game to game at half time.

Generally throughout last season we came out for the second half looking like we had taken sleeping tablets but that observation gets forgotten if we win. When we were winning this season as far as I can remember no poster mentioned half time team talks. At the end of the day it’s results that makes us fans react.

We got the result we wanted yesterday but it wasn’t a massively impressive performance. We have played a lot better this season and dropped points.

21 Jan 2025 08:38:28
Sanchez, is an absolute liability. De Zebri saw it we see it yet EM doesn’t: is he defending him out of stubbornness? What makes it worse is that the coach and SDs let our best keeper go out on loan. Incidentally, Petrovic has the best stats for accurate passes in Ligue 1.

21 Jan 2025 09:23:25
Sanchez has made some good saves this season not least in away game at Bournemouth but he is liability in the so many mistakes he makes that lead to goals. NOt acceptable and apart from his flapping erro last night there was another moment when he had plenty of time on the ball and space to play it into and sent it looping straight to a Wolves player.

Petrovic had done well last season and should surely have started as our number 1 this season. And TC our best defender - after Silva's retirement - also sent out on loan. CG not thought worth giving a better contract though Lavia injury record immensely worrying, seems Casadei not trusted to fill that role, and KDH though had a good game last night surely not as good as CG in turnovers and goal threat and ground covered.

Has antone had an update on Lavia's latest injury and Enzo's injury? Would hugely hope that they could both be fit for crucial City away game though Cucurella did a great job yesterday in coverfing much of the pitch and yes KDH was energetic and tidy and could grow in confidence and creativity perhaps

Some quite a few unforced errors made last transfer window including not brining in either a worlds sttriker - admittedly not that easy to obtain of course - or at least a support striker who could be trusted to make an impact off bench if not a starter and get more minutes than Guiu.

Biggest sucess was perhaps Sancho on loan though Neto has had some ghood moments and Tosin beginning to settle in. Jorgensen not given much of a chance in first team.

21 Jan 2025 10:36:35
Agree with the above stats on Petrovic a better keeper than Sanchez.

I am generally a big Jackson fan but going through an iffy patch I would possibly give him a rest for the weekend but he does work so hard.

21 Jan 2025 10:54:34
We all use stats that support our argument, I know I do.

This may be misunderstood a conversation I had with a fellow season ticket holder who told me that Sanchez had the best save stats in the premiership whatever that is.

21 Jan 2025 13:21:53
Every man and his dog, apart from Maresca, can see that Sanchez is a total liability
It's little wonder our defence has been nervous and has hardly kept a clean sheet all season.

21 Jan 2025 14:16:28
Let me mark it clear that I would rest Sanchez and play Jorgenson for a few games.

So many so called goalkeeping keeping experts moaned that Petrovic didn’t have the goalkeeping “profile” needed for a Chelsea keeper having been playing his football in a less competitive league.

The best place for Petrovic for the remainder of this season is Strasbourg.

The club can evaluate our Keeper issues at the end of the season.

21 Jan 2025 14:28:56
Bill, EM’s half time team talk has worked for the vast majority of games this season.

I repeat I would haven’t a clue what he says at half time but no supporters would bring it up as a subject if we win the game.

21 Jan 2025 18:41:49
Sanchez is high up on save stats but frankly they are meaningless as they can’t distinguish between top saves and ones which any keeper should make. Incidentally, the bottom two keepers are Alison and Ederson for the least amount of saves: who would you prefer?

21 Jan 2025 19:12:43
Jimbo exactly, stats are often used to support an argument point of view. In the same way the Petrovic passing stat is useless unless you know the context of the passes.

The same guy who mentioned the stat for Sanchez to be fair touched on a similar point that you are making. He said that Onana had made less mistakes that led to a goal being conceded than Sanchez and has he said who on earth would want Onana as there keeper.

22 Jan 2025 08:32:39
I agree that stats alone are not that useful for keepers but the errors leading to goals is a solid one: Sanchez is second worst and, of course, that doesn’t include the ones he got away with. I prefer the eye test which he fails miserably. There is a photo of Trev looking daggers at Sanchez after the blunder which says it all.

22 Jan 2025 10:29:32
Jimbo, the whole team should have been looking daggers at Sanchez in the same way they should look at any player who makes a costly mistake.

In this thread I didn’t bring up the use of stats. I was just pointing out how they don’t tell the whole story about a players performance.

The one that makes me laugh is the passes completed stat. If I remember correctly the top players on that list are VVD and Colwill.