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15 Jul 2026 23:00:32
I put up a rumour a few weeks ago that we had an interest in Stone. About a week later I was told he is going to Arsenal.

On tonight's performance and his performances generally in this WC, he will get top sides interested in signing him.

15 Jul 2026 22:07:01
Obviously gutted with tonight’s result, but the better team deserved the win.

For me, Tommy Tickle had a nightmare tactically. Spain go 1-0 up and keep the ball. We go 1-0 up and drop back with ten defenders.

The only very, very small positive is I have Spain in the sweepstake.

13 Jul 2026 23:07:17
Appears that Alonso really rates Enzo Fernandez and wants him to stay. I would be very pleased with that.

14 Jul 2026 00:24:46
What makes you say that? The only thing he said in the press conference was that they had spoken, and what was said will remain private. A follow-up question of 'Do you want Enzo to stay?' was met with a single-word answer of 'yes' haha.

14 Jul 2026 08:17:08
Melbourne, unless somebody pays the fee, he will be staying.

This window, our SD's seem to have found some backbone and are telling clubs to pay what we want or they move on, I have read Inter are pulling away from the Chabs deal as it is too expensive.

Previous seasons the begging bowl if the Italians meant that we would pay 200% of the salary and they would give us a packet of Rolo's as a loan fee.

As you probably can guess, I can't stand Italian clubs

14 Jul 2026 09:19:00
I don't think we can read too much into Alonso's response. If he answered No to that question, then the player's transfer fee would drop.

14 Jul 2026 10:14:00
I agree, Bill. I know some supporters want Enzo to stay, but we already know he wants to play somewhere else, so I'd prefer we sold him, but, like you say, he is worth what he's worth. I wouldn't take a discount. I think if he stays, he likely has a good year, and his price shouldn't drop due to the long contract.



I actually like that Como and Inter supposedly agreed not to get into a bidding war for Chabolah. The Italian league isn't known for ethics, typically. I'm sure he will have plenty of options if the Inter sale doesn't materialize.

14 Jul 2026 10:26:05
Melbourne, like you, I have read different reports about Enzo, but do any of us actually know for sure that he 100% wants to leave now that Alonso has arrived? Lots of the current squad had great admiration for the club when we won the Club World Cup and started last season, but it seemed to change when the club appointed LR. That has now changed.

14 Jul 2026 12:44:49
It's safe to assume he wants to leave. His agent has said he is actively searching for solutions to let him leave Chelsea. I hope Xabi is persuasive enough to get his mind back on staying long term, but he has history with pushing for moves away from clubs he kisses the badge of.

14 Jul 2026 14:43:33
Bill, our SDs have grown a backbone now that they've packed the club full of below average players no one particularly wants. We'll see by the end of the window where those players are, but I'm not holding my breath. Like I've said before, we're on the verge of absolute catastrophe as a club, and we desperately need this summer and the season to work out.

14 Jul 2026 16:20:13
I hope we don't get relegated yet again.

Let's see how good Alonso is. I think he will get our squad playing to its potential. Obviously, other teams are not going to stand still and wait for us to catch. It will be interesting, but I'm looking forward to the new season.

14 Jul 2026 16:40:01
I don't think we are on the verge of a catastrophe, but I accept that next season will be important for the club. I believe that, with 3 or 4 smart signings and the moving of the dross we have recently signed, things can improve.

I believe we have picked the right manager for the task. Let's just hope he has influence on signings that he believes can thrive in his system. Not quite the last chance saloon, but nearly.

14 Jul 2026 17:57:12
Catastrophe may be slightly strong, Jimbo - however I'm worried, the media noise isn't helping. Stories of us haggling over a few million for a 28 year old back-up wing-back. I'm confident no one on here has heard of him before.

Stories of players wanting to leave, losing Cucurella, who, regardless of anything, was one of our best players and one of our most experienced.

The lack of interest in players like Garancho, who I feel have no business being at Chelsea.

Countless names can be added to that - Tosin, Delap, Gittens, Badiashile, Neto, Lavia, Gusto, Sanchez.

Talk of Alonso being backed with experience and a change in model, i.e. a lowball bid for Xhaka and not much else. A constant stream of more kids again, most of whom no one's heard of, and just huge, glaring weaknesses in the squad as of yet not addressed.

14 Jul 2026 17:59:50
I also think, with less playing time, players won't get injured as much and won't be too tired.

I.

14 Jul 2026 18:38:11
Kazblue, I share your concerns. That's why the ins and outs will be significant in determining the direction of the club - early days yet.
Bill, the fact we are playing less football is because we didn't qualify for the Champions League and are not at the top table.

As for injuries, some of our players wouldn't be able to play two games of croquet in a week. Not sure why our players are tired, they were outrun by every team except Liverpool last season. Perhaps, they should go to bed earlier.

14 Jul 2026 21:56:15
On the verge of a Catastrophe? Oh my oh my. I have seen some comments on here over the years, "Moises being called a donkey" being the stand out, but Kaz, you are rivalling yourself there.

14 Jul 2026 22:35:16
How not edw - we have overspent, we came 10th, we have huge areas of concern in the squad - we have SDs that have so far shown no competence, on the football side of things and in large parts of the business side. We have a long list of players we'd like to move on, having only brought them in in the last few years.

We are awash with rumours of players wanting out - you think Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer, JP want to sit tight if we have another season coming 8th/9th/10th? A footballer's career can end in a moment - these players won't wait forever for us to sort ourselves out.



We have an exciting young manager and some exciting players - if it fails now, I struggle to see where we go from here.

14 Jul 2026 23:06:06
I am not sure we are "awash with players wanting out", but all players should want success. A transfer window is the time when rumours abound, and, as much as I enjoy those rumours, the vast majority just make me laugh. If a player wants to leave, then goodbye as far as I'm concerned.

I personally think we will challenge for CL football next season.

I think we have a lot more talented players than some believe, and, without last season's manager turmoil, those players would and should have finished in the top four.

I worry less about our SDs signing players than I do managers, and although Alonso wasn't my first choice, I think he will prove to be a solid appointment.

15 Jul 2026 08:28:13
I agree, Tom, and he will have the respect of the players. Something LR didn't, but I have to admit Maresca did.

We don't need many coming in, but those that do must improve the first 11.

15 Jul 2026 08:29:46
I don't think managers should sign players, but they should have an influence on the positions and types of players needed. I certainly don't trust our SDs signing players.

15 Jul 2026 08:30:13
Verge of catastrophe is maybe a bit strong, but I totally understand the sentiment. This season is definitely make or break. I said for a while that we could do a Spurs this season and be in relegation trouble. Now that we have Alonso, I'm more confident, but as people have said, if this doesn't work, what then.

15 Jul 2026 09:06:07
Some of the so-called big clubs have gone through long periods of mediocrity in recent seasons. I hope we don't drop into that category. I am personally convinced we have some very good players who can challenge for trophies over the next few seasons.



I do not see us on the verge of some "catastrophe." I want to see progress this season. I want to see patterns of play, but more than anything, I want to see the team working hard and not the passive nonsense of last season.

15 Jul 2026 11:09:30
Who are these good players and can they actually stay fit. And are they good right here, right now - don't want to hear about Estevao and Quenda as good players when they have done very little as of yet - forget potential, I'm interested in who's ready here and now....

Colwill
James (never fully fit, so he becomes a headache for us).
Caicedo
Enzo (can't stand him as a bloke, but he's a good player).
Palmer (needs to regain form and confidence).


Joao Pedro

6 good players and then a handful of decent/might be alright players, and then about 157 players we need to wait for to see if they end up any good.

Another bad season and our problems on and off field increase massively - and I do not trust these owners and clown SDs to get us through tough periods. They came in on the back of a UCL win and almost capsized the club faster than the Titanic.

15 Jul 2026 11:46:55
Your opinions on our players will no doubt be different to mine.

I remember posters slaughtering the signing of Hato for the majority of last season. Strangely, that criticism disappeared later in the season. Cucarella was given pelters for a season, and then became a fans' favourite. Of course the reverse is true. I was a fan of Gusto, but he was horrible last season, but that doesn't mean he will be a bad player for the remainder of his career.

Like most clubs, we have made mistakes in the signing of some players, in my opinion, but any criticism I have of our SDs would apply to a lot of Premiership clubs, judging by some of the criticism from posters on other team sites.

I will wait and see if Alonso can get a tune out of these players before I make a final decision about a lot of our players.

I do think the SDs have made mistakes in manager appointments, and hopefully the appointment will bring some improvements.

I'm not sure we have 157 players in the whole club, but I do want the club to continue investing in potential. Of course not all of that investment will work out, but with this current inflated transfer market, to me, it seems the logical way to go.

Just one more small note. At some stage last season, I got pelters from certain posters about my views on Hato. I have also given my opinion on the qualities of Lavia, and now I will repeat, with good coaching, Gittens will prove his worth.

15 Jul 2026 12:37:28
Usual condescending nonsense from you Tom

Hato has had a handful of decent games in a chelsea shirt has done
Nothing on note yet and if the rumours are true and he's playing LB /LWB you may be in for a shock as he's not

Gusto is poor and the 75m price tag for him gave me a proper chuckle

Cucurella was average when he signed
Settled in became solid- he is spains number 1 left back however and we have sokd him to sign a Spanish Left back no one has ever heard of

15 Jul 2026 12:58:11
I always chuckle when posters feel it necessary to make personal comments or judgements. That also includes laughing at myself.

When I make a player assessment and prove wrong, I'm always happy to admit it. Hato is class and will only get better. Lavia, if he stays fit, will be POS and Gittens, with good coaching, will prove he is a top player.



I agree, I have very little knowledge about our FB signings, but I will wait and see them playing in Chelsea blue for an extended period of time before I make a judgement. Others can have a negative view before they have seen them play, that's up to them. That reminds me of some posters' view when we signed Caicedo and his first few games for the club.

15 Jul 2026 14:39:12
Kazblue, why did you tell Tom he posts condescending nonsense? Just because other posters don't agree with you, why do you have to be so nasty?

15 Jul 2026 14:56:19
EbW, don't worry about it mate. As I said, amongst other things it makes me chuckle.

15 Jul 2026 16:40:21
Hato hasn't proved anything yet to be considered a class player. Lavia Pos. He'd be lucky to get a MOTM with his injury record. Gittens is absolutely dreadful: any coaching should have been done years ago. Alonso is not a miracle worker.

15 Jul 2026 17:04:43
Agreed, Jimbo... About time we rate players on performance, not supposed potential.

15 Jul 2026 17:05:22
I disagree. I think Hato has proved that, at this moment in time, he is good enough for the Premiership, and the frightening thing is, he could well improve.

Lavia just oozes class. Staying fit has been a problem, but his class as a player is something I don't doubt.

I have seen enough of Gittens, when he is given the chance, to know he has quality.

As I said when we signed him, I have one reservation, and that is he sometimes plays with his head down. Good coaching, I hope, can sort that out.

Alonso wasn't my first choice, but I'd see his team win the German League, and they were well drilled and worked hard. I'm happy he has joined our club, and I'm now convinced he will get our players to their full potential.

15 Jul 2026 17:11:13
Maybe it's about time some people realise that all fans have different opinions and those opinions deserve respect.

15 Jul 2026 17:41:17
Tom, you gave your opinion about certain players; I gave mine, and then you repeated your opinions. Respect is a two-way street.

15 Jul 2026 17:49:43
Jimbo, you are correct. Respect is a two way thing, and if you think that my last post on the subject of "respect" was aimed at you, then I apologise.

As far as repeating my opinion is concerned, I gave my reasons for believing the three players mentioned have quality. That was something I hadn't done in my original post.

15 Jul 2026 18:32:26
Tom, posters have different and strong views about players. Like most posters, I go into the new season with hope but also with an underlying fear of failure and a drift to mediocrity. For me, that could be assuaged by 3 or 4 good signings and a clear out of players who are not up to standard. Alonso was my top choice, so I have no complaints on that score.

I have World Cup fatigue at present and will be pleased to concentrate on domestic football. That said, I hope Reece has a winner's medal on his neck on Sunday. Tonight will be spicy. Very important that England keep their composure and avoid red cards. Oops, nearly forgot about Trev.

15 Jul 2026 18:39:55
Jimbo, it is good and totally understandable that fans/posters have different opinions about players, SDs, managers and owners.

Those differences can be delivered with respect for other people's opinions.

15 Jul 2026 20:00:35
I really don't see the condescending bit about TomB.
He gave his opinions on players, with some good arguments. I see that, if he sees someone say he is not good enough or they are rubbish, they should give a reason for it.

As for some of your picks, TomB,
Gittens, I don't see what you do, I'm afraid. Your comment on having his head down is valid. But if he hasn't had that coached in the 20 years, there isn't much hope now. He clearly relies heavily on speed. Coming up against low blocks, in 80% of the teams that play us, he struggles as there is no space for the pace. He always runs into blind alleys.

Hato, I do think, will be class.

Not there yet, but his composure on the ball is excellent. He makes some great passes, but is lacking in positional awareness. This will get better the more experienced he gets, and with more coaching.

Lavia, his press resistance is, do I dare say, world class. His eye for a pass is world class. But his body just isn't, and will need working on to keep him fit. Can we, can't we, I am unsure, but he has all the aspects to be world class.

I am upbeat about this season.

And I am probably one of the only people that think/want to keep Enzo. I think the guy is class, a warrior. Although, after tonight, I may really hate him.

15 Jul 2026 21:09:14
Finchy, thanks for your comments. My assessment on both Hato and Gittens comes from watching a lot of German and Dutch football, before my Dutch and German sons-in-law took my daughters back to their respective countries for work reasons. Both players had excellent seasons.

12 Jul 2026 14:10:06
Well done England, Argentina, France and Spain on reaching the World Cup Semi-Finals, without doubt the best 4 teams in the tournament alongside a special mention for Cape Verde.
Jude Bellingham is simply on another level and has been our star man followed by the hugely underrated Elliot Anderson and the ever reliable Harry Kane.

The players who have really disappointed are Noni and in particular, Declan Rice. The rest have been average at best with Anthony Gordon probably the pick of the wingers.

12 Jul 2026 17:00:15
Rpd, tbf, I think Rice has been carrying an injury. Saka has been poor as well, in fact, all the wingers have shown reluctance to take on the full backs, and the end product has been generally poor. Bellingham, Kane and Anderson have carried the team. The others must improve if England are going to get any further.

13 Jul 2026 09:57:29
Madueke has played how he always plays. I cannot understand why he was picked for the squad.

12 Jul 2026 01:03:42
Glad to see Jesse getting a loan with Sporting. It won't be easy to crack into that team but I anticipate he will become a starter for them and get a decent amount of minutes. One thing England players of old didn't do a lot was go overseas, so it's great that he has some courage and is getting out of his bubble.

One of the greatest cities on the planet, so I'm sure he will have a fantastic year.